Don's Two Cents On Ross' Comments
AN HABITUAL JAAB BLOG READER ASKED ME TO WRITE ON THIS ISSUE. I DO NOT FASHION MYSELF TO BE ANY VOICE OF AUTHORITY, I JUST LIKE TO WRITE ON THIS BLOG. ALSO, THERE WERE NO CASES TO REPORT THIS THURSDAY FROM THE 4th DCA.
Several years ago, a fellow criminal defense lawyer told me about a case where Ross addressed his Hispanic client in a fake Spanish accent and made comments about the client not speaking English. When I was in a division, I remember a young lady appearing before Ross for a violation of probation reprimand. There was an allegation that the gal was a prostitute. Judge Ross looked down at her from the bench and made a comment that he was surprised because he thought the defendant was a homecoming princess. I think we could all agree that Ross has a penchant for sarcastic comments.
Most of the blogs on this matter either defended Ross by opining that his comments were made in jest, or condemned Ross by labeling the comments as reprehensible. This debate misses the point. It is the effect on the listener that is important here, not whether Ross’ comments were innocuously made and simply in keeping with his sense of humor.
The fact that the comments were inappropriate is proved by eight minority bar organizations filing a complaint with Chief Justice Anstead. For those who find no fault with Ross’ comments, you need to look at what effect these type of comments may have on a defendant. For lawyers, appearing in court is a chosen profession. Some days we hate to be there, other days we love it. We have great cases, and we have the dogs. At the end of the day, however, we leave the courthouse and go home.
Conversely, very few people want to be a criminal defendant. To a defendant walking into a courtroom, this is a place where the government has the right to take away a his or her liberty. And the person in charge is sitting above everyone else wearing the black robe. This is intimidating to say the least. The defendant approaches the bench deserving justice and hoping for mercy. And what does the defendant hear? A sarcastic remark from the judge. The defendant cannot respond: to do so might invoke the judge’s ire, which could result in a stiffer sentence, or in an extreme case, a contempt of court citation. The person is powerless and has to just "take it." No matter how the judge meant the comments, the results demean the defendant.
We should all be unified in trying to create a dignified courtroom atmosphere. The same sarcastic comment or joke might entertain one person and insult another. If there is any chance a comment might offend someone, it has no place in a courtroom. Veteran criminal defense lawyer Albert Krieger said that it is a criminal defense lawyer’s duty to always be critical of the judiciary. We should not be afraid to address inappropriate judicial comments. This may be accomplished by a simple objection, a letter to the judge, informing the media, or in extreme circumstances, a JQC complaint. All people who enter a courtroom deserve to be treated with the utmost respect and should not be the brunt of judicial sarcasm.
Amen,
sign me a much big victim than those you Don mention!
So these comments were below the JQC threshold as were the ones that all the lawyers in all the bars just wanted to write to the Chief Justice and overlook any JQC requisite complaint.
I do not see this at all and suggested once the letter was out there that the JQC is the body to review and to punish judges actions. AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A BUNCH OF JURIDICAL HOMIES CHANGES NOTHING AS to a lawyer's duties!!!
very well said.
Does anyone else like to wear silk panties to court?
Hola Corrupted Fighter!
Surpise! Surprise! Humor when you mean it and ya don't! Silk panties to court... One hundred dollars. Being in touch with your femine side anonymously on this site... priceless. I encourage all to try like him. It worked in Weird Science! Breaking wind by the podium if you have the sandwich is another good move right as you finish the top half of argument. Also, one must be able to be gaseous on cue.
I agree with you Corrupted Punching Bag. Please email JAAB so we can have the KGB, CIA, British Secret Cervix, The DOJ, umm... The Mossad, The Scotland Yard, Re-Run, Kim Jong Il, Harry Potter, J.J. "DYNOMITE", Help Me Howard, The SAO, The Bi-Partisan 9/11 commission, The commission to investigate day light savings, commisions investigating commissions, Commissioner Gordon, and The San Diego Zoo.
If you're real, you're a riot. If phony, a pisser! No question, you're a real phony who is a pisser. At this point, we kinda just laugh at you. Because, no one buys your act. I'm over the issues, I just like laughing at you and your site. Real or memorex. I don't care.
ATTENTION JAAB: WE HAVE THE NEXT GHANDI! He can figure out Iraq and devise a plan for world peace and unity amongst all races and religions. Bottle up this stench and sell his love stank all over the world.
Go for it Corrupted Fighter! The colgone and your silk panites could be a scratch and sniff sticker at a fund raising event. We can auction your actual panties and that lovin' stnch to the top bidder. You are brilliant!
Thank you for wiping the board clean and not allowing for others to respond. Not cool man. See if you can do a post a day.
P.S. I'm KinMapper. Nope............
IT'S JUDGE ROSS! shhhhhhhhhhhh. Smile dude. I'm appointing him as your attorney to help you contact the various agencies.
A judge of sorts over this nonsense.
Silly Anonymous, my intelligence knows no bounds. Joke all you want, one day the powers that be will beckon at your door and only then you will realize of the corruption of which I speak.
Fight The Corrupt wrote:
Does anyone else like to wear silk panties to court?
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not me
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I will likewise, should I ever get their attention, ask the FBI to track down who wrote all the remarks such as the above and such as the below:
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Fight The Corrupt wrote:
Silly Anonymous, my intelligence knows no bounds. Joke all you want, one day the powers that be will beckon at your door and only then you will realize of the corruption of which I speak.
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We, among my alter egos, are playing no games and if you all discredit someone attempting to obtain a route to investigation and to prosecution of a federal crime, learn your federal criminal code and the vast differences with state criminal statutes, I will encourage the feds to get the records of this blog and find out who and why and what liability appertains under the federal criminal code.
SO post away particularly late at night when I am sure your computer is the source.
The feds when due act like to act out fully to show their immense power!!
So beware ye who think that blocking the message with sophomoric or childish chaff is a wise move!
Lighten up dude...
Sophmore by the way means wise fool. Ojbectively, you are the one who wrote about wearing panties. I also think you're funny. Viva La First Amendment! Right Bill? The Bill of Rights? It protects sophoric jokes even if you don't like them. See, Voltaire for instance.
P.S. Don't get your panties in a wad. If you are the disbarred lawyer or an anonymous freak, then, you fail to realize you've got nothing except insanity and detraction from a well reasoned argument by the author. I don't like government intrusion. You welcome it. Tell me, who is the liberal? You are like the Patriot Act incarate.
Good night Ghandi. Obivously you don't want ohters to express their opinons on the merits of the articles. You have an agenda. Anonymous or not. Yet you blur the rest of the posters remarks here by constantly writing to screw everyones thoughts.
Please, if you've been bumped by the moldy corruption, repost. You have no character or spine. Stick that in in ad-hominem pipe and smoke it.
You Tube Depiction of Fight the Corrupt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfDb9ONdOJE
I can go all night Fast Eddie aka Fight the Corrupt. You are not going to be succssful in bumping me down. I wonder why you were disbarred/discredited (assuming this is not a stage prank). Probably because you deserved it. Why not post the findings of the Florida Bar.
By the way: The only reason I write back is to purely make fun of you. Why? It's fun... Sorry to take away from the merits of the article, but you destroy it along with the thoughts this author put into it.
By the way, you are so big in that video that when you put on a red dress to go with your panties the kids yell, "Hey Kool-Aid." Did I mention you were the inspiration for twin beds?
You were very slow to the draw and elected to retreat from your methodology of fraud.
You at least ceased your fraudulent acts which acts will interest the FBI as to your prior posts. It is not necessary to be known to the other parts of a conspiracy only to perform one sufficient act to subject you to any one of a number of criminal provisions.
This is not a certainty but post again falsely and fraudulently and it becomes much more likely, if there is any basis for my claims and any basis for my citizen's belief that those who create a shield for the criminals may be co-conspirators after the fact or obstructors of justice.
Care to test that with another fraudulent post to show your intentional certainty that that set of federal laws will never be applied much less enforced against you.
You are a pathetic man, for the very way you post eliminate the female gender from your effete efforts and elimination of my education and elicitation of assistance in reporting juridical enemies of America to some who are not much different to you but just hold sacred offices in the DoJ and the FBI and the Oval Office.
I believe it is time that I met up with the other believers of truth and justice on here. On Monday I will be in Law Library at 9AM. I will be wearing a black London Fog raincoat and matching Fedora. I will hope you will join me and come along to Judge Greene's office afterwards to conduct a naked sit in.
I look forward to meeting you all, this will be a historic day in bringing these corrupt judges to their knees.
Why do you keep posting the same crap? I posted at 2:24 -- here's what I think of you and what's happening to your posts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfDb9ONdOJE
P.S. I am not posing as you, a hypotheitcal twit, anonymously... I rag on you with the name the computer picks on me. Never would I associate myself with your anonymous name. Have the head of the FBI look up the crime for making jokes about an imposter, when this poster is not you.
Sorry you've been kicked in the groin. Maybe you haven't recovered from the Youtube of who I think you are. Kinmapper is Dale Ross someone told me. I nominate Fight The Corrupt for Chief Judge... along with Chief from One Flew Cookoos Nest.
Anonymous thinks in the above post, if thinking is a word that can be applied to most of the Anonymouses here, that there is only one by his name and that the name Anonymous can and has been only be used by him. Possibly true but that would require a longevity beyond known science.
If there is obstruction under federal law and if the FBI ever muscles up on South Florida, the FBI will sort computers from other computers, and you Anonymous good faith posters from you Anonymous bums from the Anonymous fraudulent bums. I doubt you are the former, Anonymous above this post.
To quote my favorite movie Boogie Nights, so you understand me better....
I like butter in my ass and lolipops in my mouth.
The person who posted above is a fraud, as I will be in the law library on Monday and will be naked in Judge Greene's courtroom by 10am. Lady Justice is blind and naked and so will I will not tolerate any more mocking of me, I am who I say I am. I am fishing you little pranksters and we will discover who you are.
Just so you know, you will see, my powers and the powers that bee it rain plagues at the Bo and Jerrys Law Day party in May.
Viva Bush I tell you, Viva the FBI, Viva Charlie Crist, Viva I tell you, Taco Viva and dont make me say it again.
I am me, I am Fight the Corrupt, any others are just pranksters.
Don it is time for me to take your two cents and make change. Change I say,thou shalt vanquish the pranksters who mock me and my miniscule genetailia, IT WAS SHRINKAGE DAMN IT
Good Morning Fight The Corrupt (and JAAB'ers)!
Look, I leave the Name field blank and Anonymous is chosen randomly by the server. The rules of a blog are... there are no rules. Except, the unwritten rules of the road of cyberspace: Don't use a chosen screen name and portray oneself as that impostor. No matter how insane. Yet, because there are no rules to a blog, there are some who violate the unwritten rules of blogging in general.
That being said, anyone can make fun of you as well the other one I surmise.
You "opened the door," and really do need to Lighten UP!!! Some of what you wrote or didn't write was really funny. Even the legally pointed ones and your site are amusing.
From your own perspective, there are several on here who would probably really like to help you out assuming you actually exist. Your nuclear approach on a blog is unwise since it is your last resort. I would think that obvious from a man of your intellect. Unless of course, you don't exist.
Further, I know for a fact I've never posted as you and your calls are wrong.
At one point you claimed of how far superior your intellect was from others. I'd suggest reading, "The Apology" by Plato. The Trial of Socrates. You claim to be wiser than all. Falling into the class of those who prosecuted him. Meletus and his followers. Not Socrates. I know, I know little, and there is far more to learn. You claim to be otherwise. I would pick you apart with the Socratic Method which sprung from Plato's writings. Your "Know It All" approach, can be defeated by a 1L who has not even withstood the rigors of the Socratic Method for the first time.
So, here is a conspiracy I think worth looking at. Seriously. If you really are writing the comedy above by the way, kudos. I cried laughing this morning.
Anyways... Daylight savings conspiracy. It's all about golf and making money. Please, Fight The Corrupt: This is right up your alley. We all can agree that waking up an hour early tommorow sucks. This is a total farce. The golf industry makes so much money off of this (which I'm not opposed to) as do retailers, not to mention computer glitches. There are counter-arguments, of course, a pretextual argument of energy conservation.
Ok, here are some fair and balanced web-sites. The first ABC hits hard off the golf tee:
GOOD MORNING (pun intended) AND LIGHTEN IT UP A BIT HUH? (Trust, me, I would never pose as your screen name, but, am more than happy to make fun of you when appropriate).
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=975472&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17135007/
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/0310/daylight.saving/frameset.exclude.html
Top O' The Morning!
I will not detail my anger and my willingness to face you anywhere
"top o' the morning", another anonymous whichever of you low-life lawyers who say cruel "let's all get along" malarkey while allowing your judges and sheriffs and others to do evil in the name of their position.
I am ashamed for all Broward County.
You are an evil man who says victims should take it with humor.
You sir are consigned to hell when this world ends for you.
Mark 9:42
Is that light enough for you, you evil evil educated yet Neanderthal value-less lawyer!
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PS The 1:34 post is by a pervert, track him down and throw him to The Florida Bar as that pervert alerts others to the Florida Bar and its subversion, conversion of the system, and perversion of our country's basic moral ethic.
Fight The Corrupt aka Meletus:
Do you like movies about gladiators?
O Men Of Athens... I mean Broward, unfortuately to rationally and logically argue with one who dawns a Fedora hat coupled with the use of induction and deduction, it requires an assumption that the one to argue with is a rational person. Since, The Punching Bag is insane, we must turn away from Plato's and Socrates' playbooks to the scattelogical in order to "reason" with Corrupted Drayno.
Point in fact, one of the charges levied against Socrates was that he corrupted the minds of the youths. Funny, I'm reminded of "The Apology" as the partial screen name of the amoeba above and tactics he uses mimic the persecutors of Socrates. But, that'd be Greek to him... Click above for a good translation of Plato's, The Apology. If you've never read this, it's excellent. Certainly, Corrupted Jarhead has not.
It's not the Republic, much shorter, and is where the Socratic Method came from. That is a lesson in cross-examination Kunsler modeled his style from, as have all excellent attorneys (whether they've read this or not)although Moldy Corruption would have you think otherwise. All joking aside (which will follow) every citizen should read a short story about the Trial of Socrates written by Plato. Unless of course, you know EVERYTHING like schmuckaroo above.
"I know, that I know nothing and there is more to learn" to paraphrasse Socrates. This is called, "Socratic Wisdom." Not the Know It All, in your face, mud-smear, gargabe, he/she paints across the board against every governmental branch and ancillary.
You fall into tho group of those who persecuted Socrates. A Know It All who really knows little. Probably a good reason why you've been discredited by your proffession.
Let us look at the facts on you:
1) You hide behind a veil of anonymity with no substance. No problem with that, but, you have the sense of gum stuck on a sidewalk. Our shoes just happened to step in it. Actually, it was something other than gum. This pseudonym belongs in the toilet.
2) Your arguments are fallacious and have been discredited by the DOJ, FBI, SAO, your profession, and now, more than a few bloggers. Why should we listen to you at all? I do you a service by even responding. Notice how none of the Authors on JAAB never respond to you (here). As for me, I don't care. Your legal analysis is fit for the Twilight Zone and Rod Serling. But your observations of the legal system are in all fairness brilliant...NOT.
3)From a rational perspective, how is anyone to reasonably know you are not the same guy who is writing back and forth with comedy and worthless legal arguments? For all I know, you will wind up with a Fedora in a courtroom. I'll be sure to avoid it after looking at the slovenly pictures of yourself at your site. You allow for perverted pictures on your site. A Flashing Santa? You don't argue against that comment/pic. Ergot: YOU ARE ILLOGICAL
The Allegory of The Cave seems to fit as well... Perhaps the lonely Fight The Corrupt should come out his cave and learn a bit. Speak from what you know as opposed to speculation in the dark. Kudos to the Plato analysis.
The last two posts above this were from the same lying fraud who can not deal with realities.
Continue it at your own risk as I do believe that you may be obstructing justice and I will certainly suggest that the FBI see if you have crossed the line.
Neither the DoJ nor the FBI have done intake on it. The DoJ indicated they would not consider anything unless did something.
The FBI is inert, in dirt, incompetent, indifferent or in-on-it for no response from them at all.
And you who do this garbage might see them early in the game once they are humiliated enough.
Cite a case as to why a court reporter would not be civilly responsible if an innocent man had to wait years after the court reporter was due with the transcript and the court reporter lacked good cause.
Cite a case on anything I wrote but best I can tell you only can incite contempt and attempt to cause confusion on someone seeking justice.
Vile and evil is how you live.
Great, insightful article. I always enjoy your writing Don. I am sorry for the folks who work hard on this blog as the saboteurs like FTC or Roman who seem intent on ruining it for everyone. Small wounded egos should get their own blogs!
To quote in part from an earlier post at 2:24, I agree AtLAW (not that you need validation):
"If you are the disbarred lawyer or an anonymous freak, then, you fail to realize you've got nothing except insanity and detraction from a well reasoned argument by the author."
methinks that Fight da' Corrupt / "maroni" is just good ol' BRIAN SIMON!
thanks Brian for all your wasted time - now go take your meds, bitch!