SAME AS THE OLD ROSS
BOB NORMAN'S DAILY PULP
Confirmed: Scheinberg Out At SAO
"Either this is related to the Judge Ana Gardiner expose or it's one hell of a coincidence. Scheinberg allegedly partied with Gardiner while prosecuting a murder trial in her courtroom and talked about the case over drinks at Timpano's.
If this is a sign that Michael Satz is cleaning house on the matter (or at least not circling the wagons around it) then I ask: What is Victor Tobin doing?
Who knows, but it looks like Broward's chief judge is sitting on his hands. The rumor is that he'd like to move Judge Gardiner out of her powerful administrative post (Gardiner is chief criminal judge) and into family court, but she's dug in her heels. Meanwhile, the Gardiner article has been sent to the state Supreme Court by Omar Loureiro's attorney and will almost surely become an issue in Loureiro's death penalty appeal.
Point: The truth will come out and when it does, Tobin will have proven that he's no reformer (unless it's politically expedient, of course) when it comes to Broward's battered judiciary. Instead, he'll have shown that he's just another Broward lackey without the guts to do the right thing."
I've been reading all the postings by JAABBLOG and the commenters and I guess I'm sorta left wondering what ever happen to "innocent until proven guilty" and weight of evidence? Maybe even convicting on hearsay or other travesties of truth which this blog claims to abhor.
I don't know the truth behind the Judge Gardiner allegations but I dare say that no one else on this web site does either. A newspaper article in New Times certainly doesn't impress me as clear and convincing evidence or even a preponderance of the truth. Most of us have dealt with the press and been misquoted, slanted, skewed and misrepresented according to the angle that the reporter wants to write the story from.
This site has really gone the way of gossip columns and witch hunts and kinda sorta lost its credibility for me and others whom I talk to. Some of the postings are well thought out and articulated - others sound the like the rantings of schoolyard kids who don't get enough attention and don't know how to behave.
If the allegations of a reporter and hearsay evidence are true, then yes, Judge Gardiner has an issue that needs to be rectified. However, I refuse to crucify anyone based on a newspaper article and a reporters slant. If there is merit, report to JQC and let them investigate...otherwise, this site really needs to grow up a bit.
Not judging anyone....just saying.
Ask Florida Bar prosecutor Juan Arias if its true.
If Tobin is now fully aware of the situation and continues to do nothing about it, he is abetting Ana's malfeasance in office and I'd suggest that's grounds for a JQC complaint against him, too.
9:18, if the article was really false, Judge Gardiner can go ahead and sue the New Times for libel. That she hasn't already speaks volumes.
No lawsuit. No retraction.
What if it is true and no one tells the truth?
Lawyers and judges are held to higher standards.
The system may have been soiled and has no credibility until she is cleared of any alleged wrongdoing.
It's not about whether it can be proved, it's about the truth.
A license to practice to law or be a judge is a privilege, not a right.
Yesterday, someone I hold in incredibly high regard said, "Ok she's slutty. [Referring to Gardiner] Let's move on." I was surprised at how this seemingly innocuous statement rumpled my feathers. Whether or not the elicit affairs DID affect her judgment (and I'm not sure it did), there was a life in the balance and the mere appearance of impropriety will be enough to reverse the case.
Her behavior is reprehensible to a defense attorney for the pseudo-sham trial, reprehensible to a prosecutor or a victim's family because the case will most certainly be tried again and a very bitter pill for the public to swallow considering the recent avalanche of reversed convictions, particularly with the publicity afforded recent exonerees and the media ruckus the kids at Nova raised a few weeks ago. Anyone who attended the Criminal Law Society's Innocence Week with Alan Crotzer (exonerated after 24.5 years in prison) in early April will tell you that in the middle of the week their shirts, printed just a few days before (214... and counting) were outdated. On Tuesday of that week, the 215th person in the U.S. was exonerated with DNA evidence. 216 was exonerated about two weeks ago after 27 years in prison--for a crime he did not commit. In those trials, judges were not sleeping with prosecutors. I hope you have the same visceral reaction that I did.
That tongue-lashing aside, whether the alleged relationship had an effect on her judgment is not the question, nor is its impropriety. The question is whether she should be completely removed from the bench.
I for one, think she has redeeming qualities. She was made chief of the criminal division for a reason. I think she'll find it difficult to be re-elected even if this went away tomorrow. She did something stupid. So stupid. SO STUPID... but are we to throw her away for that?
Bill Clinton got BJs from an intern and perjured himself. His approval rating actually ROSE. I'm not saying she didn't do something wrong; I'm disgusted with her. I do, however, think that she has a keen legal mind, one that can be of use to the judiciary in the future.
Shall we throw the baby out with the bath water?
Sorry BlueGirl....Gardiner has a "keen legal mind."
With the exception of Cheryl "Take Your Kids Away Because the Bus Was Late" Aleman, the 4th DCA has so frequently reversed Judge Gardiner that nobody can in any way with a straight face say she has a "keen legal mind."
The only thing she has is luck, (formerly) powerful friends, new tits and straight teeth (braces are wonderful).
That and the complete absence of a soul.
May whatever powers that exist in the universe have more mercy on her than she's ever shown to anyone.
Who gives a rip about the death case relative to the rest of the allegations? This is only one man's life against 100s or possibly 1000s of people prosecuted by Patanzo, the former lead in her division, who is also ahem, uh, rumored to have been sleeping with the judge (not to mention a former bar grievance counselor - oh yeah, where's the bar on this one?). Come on Satzian robots, truth justice and the American way? How many ASAs, former or present, have been snickering in the hallways that they knew all about this then and were just waiting for the cows to come home? Come on now, it was common knowledge, so where are the big righteous Satzian warriors now? So ready to jam a 3 year min/man down a poor black's throat, yet they say nothing when it could hurt them with Satz or they think it will kill their chances of a judgeship? What a bunch of bottom feeding skanks. There are still people in prison that may be there at the hands of an illegal tag team. So what gives? Is justice only for those not part of their dirty club?
First, this is not a court of law, but a place to discuss issues and express opinions.
Second, if the article did not have any truth to it then I'm sure Mr. Bogenschutz would have made a statement to that effect. I know it is a delicate, sensitive situation and I'm not claiming to have the experience that Dave does, but there has been no response whatsoever (to my knowledge) other than a cease and decist letter.
I'm not saying the players should be assumed to be guilty, but my opinion is that there must be at least some truth to the story. I don't wish any ill will on anyone. I know John and Pete and have appeared before Gardner. I hope it is not true, but if it is, something must be done. It is a very sad situation for the people involved and the entire judicial system.
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WILL THIS TOWN EVER CLEAN UP IT'S ACT? NOT WITH THE JUDGES WE SEEM TO HAVE HERE. AND THEY COVER FOR EACH OTHER LIKE NO ONE'S BUSINESS. IF SOMETHING WERE ACTUALLY DONE TO DISCIPLINE WAYWARD JUDGES INSTEAD OF COVER IT UP, THINGS WOULD ACTUALLY GET BETTER. WISH THE FEDS WOULD COME TO BROWARD, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO BUST UP THIS UGLY JUDICIAL RING OF THUGS RUNNING THINGS.
Gardiner will continue to blame everyone else for her problems and never take responsibility. No matter. Whether the JQC steps in does not matter either. She is her own worst enemy and she will eventually self destruct.
There seems to be a lot of sidebars in 4900 these days
Finally, someone who understands the law, unlike the pd's office. They are completely crazy, bring in the Feds to clean the Judges up in broward, the judges aren't any different here than in any other county, you just have a scorned little man with a vendetta that twists any and everything and pushes his apd's to find anything on a judge. Little howie has always been envious of the Judges position. Someone should start following howie around, heard he has great hours, and not much work to do. And howie remember no campaigning on office hours.
Has HMH filed a complaint on Ana? Why does she get a pass?
Because he has opponents. Little howie in his high heels and pony tail.
Howard is not going after Ana because certain people have knowledge of his on going affair with a higher up in his office and a brief dallience with an employee at chan 7. At least that is the rumor around the office
lackey slic tobin first said he had no authority to discipline sleazy jay spechler-------- then michael hamaway stood vic up on a date....... presto...jay spechler was banned from the central courthouse.
Lies, lies lies
My understanding is the JQC has opened up a file on Gardiner re: the allegations in Norman's article. Gardiner should resign. The Norman story was only the tip of the iceberg. Scheinberg should be disbarred, or at a minimum suspended. And Charlie Kaplan better watch himself. Once the sworn statements start flowing the truth will come out and it's not going to look good for Gardiner and Scheinberg and maybe Charlie Kaplan.
Warning to the JQC, Gardiner will fight this to the end, scorched earth policy. I suspect that Bogenschutz will withdraw when Ana starts telling him to do unethical crap. Ana's strategy will be deny, deny, deny and buy buy buy anyone in your way. Sheila you will promised many things by Gardiner to say you lied. We'll see what happens. I do know one thing, this County is better served without the likes of Gardiner and Scheinberg as judge and lawyer, respectively.
Vic you should have stepped up to the plate and yanked Gardiner from criminal the day after the story broke. you still have a chance to do it, to do the right thing. Show us what you are made of. Some are already same that with you things are,
"same as it ever way; same as it ever was; same as it ever was...."
Kaplan has nothing to worry about. It's a total smokescreen. He wasn't mentioned until after the article and now he has to worry? No credibility there. If people blame Kaplan and others believe it no one will get in trouble. Smokescreen all the way.
Have you ever had the mini burgers at the Ale House. They stink. As a matter of fact, I haven't have a good mini burger except Royal Castle. As a legal expert on mini burgers don't buy them except at Royal Castle.
To 2:06 aka Charlie Kaplan:
Charlie, forget the article. The truth is you were there with Scheinberg and Gardiner and Alu and 2 others? Right? If so, then the issue becomes what was talked about? Perjury charlie, perjury. Look at Barry Bonds, could have told the truth about steriods but he denied the undeniable. Perjury Charlie, don't let it take you down.
P.S. When your good friends Gardiner and Scheinberg are done testilying what will you do. Perjury Charlie. Perjury can bring you down.
I just want to make it clear Mike Kaplan is my son and I am very proud of him.
Charlie Kaplan on the other is not related to me in any way and I am very disappointed he is a judge.
I've never had those mini burgers at the Ale House, but I think Scheinberg and Gardiner have.
A woman that I know just came from Majorca, Spain
She smiled because I did not understand
Then she held out a ten pound bag of cocaine
She said it was the finest in the land
And I said, "No-no-no-no, I don't sniff/snort/smoke it no more
I'm tired of waking up on the floor
No thank you please, it only makes me sneeze
Then it makes it hard to find the door"
Listening to Aunt Neil the other day and Wayne Arnold made a cameo. Wayne said he should be open again next month.
Of course the problem is his Royal Castle is located at NW 125 st. and 7th ave in Miamai. YEA !! The HOOD. Bring plenty of guns to the take out window.
I hear ADJ likes mini burgers but then again I hear you have to be over 5foot to get the burger off the adult menu.
Must read article in site proudtoliveinamerica.com A FL CRIMIN. LAWYER ARRESTED AND THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS, It talks about Ostrows arrest while filing for the Broward County Pub Def office. It talks about the arrest of a promin. Fl lawyer running for local political office is relevant on a National level. It states that Ostrow has been charged by the criminal justice system and convicted by the media. It says no human being has led a perfect life and everyone has done something stupid they regret. It also states that Clinton, McCain, Ostrow and to a lesser extent Obama have been in the public eye for years. Abama's albatross is the Rev. Wright, Ostrow has his recent arrest and McCain & Clinton have their own skeleton in the closet. I can't do this story justice, must read. IT IS ALSO SAID that this article was posted on several regional blogs that was somewhat sympathetic to the recent arrest of Gary Ostrow. Several sites picked up this article & posted it on their websites. But it is said when checking the Google search rankings for this article it was noticed that someone had visited all the blogs they posted the article on and had their posts deleted. It is said since that time they have revisited several of the blogs and reposted the link. It is said that they ahve never experienced anythin of this nature and find it highly suspect. And I have heard that several people at the Sun Sentinel have been contacted in reference to this. This is a wild story
Where is the link to the article? I can't find it.